54. Talk To Me

[00:00:00] Welcome to The Ghost Podcast. Today my guest is Maria Pratt. She is a singer songwriter from Spain and her new single Talk To Me recently came out. Welcome to the show. Really nice

[00:00:20] to be here. Thank you very much for inviting me to the Ghost Podcast. I'm really excited to be here today. So you are a singer songwriter and you reached out to me originally because you wrote a song about ghosting, which congratulations. I saw the music videos

[00:00:37] out and must be super exciting for you. So tell me a little bit about how you came to find the podcast and what brought you here. Yeah well I was searching for a support from this

[00:00:51] new song, new single that I wrote against ghosting and I just Google it like a ghosting or ghost podcast and I found a copying with ghosting by Greta that I know you know

[00:01:06] it's other. And I just find you. I thought that breathing and email to you was a good idea that explained well I would like to find some support and explain my idea. I was just trying

[00:01:28] to to some other people to emphasize with my with my song to get maybe survivors or other survivors to to hosting and that's that's what I was searching and you reply. So I'm really happy

[00:01:46] that I had your support and and so we are here today for those of you who followed Instagram page you actually asked me to be in a music video it's just for like a second but thank you so much for

[00:01:59] including me and that is really cool. They have that experience. Yeah it was really important for me that the people that chose support of this song was included also on the music video with this

[00:02:12] image with the hashtag talk to me. It was really important because it makes me feel that you are part of the song too. So let's back up a little bit. Tell me a little bit more about you your history

[00:02:26] has a singer songwriter and then I'm assuming you must have had a ghosting experience that led you to want to be so moved that you wanted to write a song about that. So tell me a little bit more about

[00:02:37] you. Yeah yeah that's right all you are saying well I am a singer songwriter from Barcelona but I love English music that's why I am always writing my songs in English. My main inspiration

[00:02:53] is Alicia Keys and so I do more or less that kind of music like R&B, so funky music and I am always writing songs from my heart, from my experiences, from learnings that I've

[00:03:14] received from that experience is and I'm just writing the songs for for for the people that maybe has lived some similar situation and maybe can be helpful to them maybe they feel in the music,

[00:03:38] in the lyrics, some support and that's why I that's the main reason where I wrote songs and I sing them and more things about me. I love rolling a scale or roller skating as you can see on the music

[00:03:58] video I love singing the music is my whole life and I am really really really sure that this is my life passion and I don't know what else can I can I tell you about me my songs if you

[00:04:23] read my songs you can you can discover a lot of things of me well I can I can tell you that I am also allure I started low in the past and because we have always been told that music maybe is not

[00:04:44] an option or real option to live from but from here I would like to to say that well to encourage people with a dream that can be possible if you fight I mean it's not I'm

[00:05:02] not gonna say that it's an easy path because you need to work a lot I combine my my low my low work with this music career during five years and it's a lot of job and a lot of work to do

[00:05:22] but if you dream go for it because then you will be more than happy I mean it's more than worth it

[00:05:32] to go to sleep in I don't know at night to be to be m and n i or to m sorry and then go to the to the office at nine a.m yeah it's really hard but you are really happy that's solid advice so tell me a

[00:05:49] little bit more about your music career the song you just came out with was at a single was that part of an album have you had other albums come out I had released two epis one in katalan which is my

[00:06:02] mother tongue language and another one my first one we in English which is my second chance it's called my second chance this song it's for the moment just a single but I'm trying to release another

[00:06:19] EP because I've released different singles I had released she's a star as three lights music switches hearts on and talk to me so maybe it's gonna be a part of a new EP could be yeah exciting moment no

[00:06:37] yeah well that's a lot to you with that and at the end of the podcast I'll give you a chance to plug where everybody can find you and download your music as well and I'll put it in the show notes too

[00:06:49] thanks so tell me what inspired you to write your song talk to me what was the story behind that as I said at the beginning I write from experiences that I've lived so I was ghosted in the past

[00:07:05] long long time ago actually I was ghosted when it even even wasn't called ghosting it just called it disappears someone that disappeared from my life I met a guy the typical the typical story

[00:07:22] we were texting a lot finally we met we kissed one night and since we kissed he disappeared totally from my life he didn't answer the text and so I didn't know anything about him since since today

[00:07:44] so yeah and it was really hard I was really confused I was thinking a lot of times repeating that well repeating a lot of conversations we're reading all the conversation that

[00:08:00] I say this on the song I was reading your messages all of what we came from or lived from and finding trying to find what did I why did I why said it wrong what I said wrong

[00:08:16] what I don't know how to explain it but it was a really confusing feeling I was all the time thinking that it was my fault something that I did until I finally

[00:08:30] with the therapy I finally understood that it has nothing to be with me but with him that he was he the person who didn't manage the motions and so finally it gives me some peace

[00:08:51] and come to understand this yeah there's a reoccurring theme I could say that comes out of every single episode I recorded it's exactly what you said that so many people blame themselves

[00:09:03] and they have so much time they spend reflecting trying to think about what they did to cause this only to find out that has nothing to do with them it's always something with the other person

[00:09:14] and it's really it's kind of something sad to think about that there's so many people who just can't communicate who just lack that basic ability yeah yeah totally so tell me a little bit

[00:09:30] more about the song talked to me what was the writing process like what how did how did the song come this song it's been hard to write I composed the chorus five years ago so imagine that

[00:09:53] talked to me talk to me I had this talk to me five years in my head like repeating it on my head a lot of times a lot of times but the verse didn't came up to me

[00:10:10] until this year that I said okay I need to write this song because I think it was a long process for me because maybe I didn't how to explain it I know that this is I knew from the beginning

[00:10:29] that this is a really important issue and that there is a lot of other people that has been got stuck in the past so I didn't want it to be like a Shakira songs you know like I don't

[00:10:45] want it to be a song that was saying hi you did it wrong no because my aim with this song was to to be a voice for all these survivors, um, ghosting survivors I'm calling ghosting survivors

[00:11:04] because I really think they are ghosting survivors and so I think that that was the reason it takes me so long to write this song to write the verses because there were a lot of

[00:11:22] important information a lot of important information that I wanted to include on the verses and I needed to I did a lot of research and also my therapy but I read a lot of articles from

[00:11:37] a therapist from ghost posts, podcasts from a lot of articles that I find in the internet well I tried to write the main words, the main ideas that I wanted to talk about it

[00:11:55] to structure it, to make a structure that the word exactly and finally I tried to wow it's difficult to explain that the process. I tried to join my experience with that main ideas with the emotional responsibility that we have among others with my feelings where I feel this

[00:12:27] this ghosting you know. I tried to join everything and I think I am really proud actually if I can say that of the verses because I think that they say all I want to say and I think that

[00:12:45] the messages I am sending can be really helpful for people that is living a ghosting now or lived a ghost in the past or it's going to be it's going to live a ghost in the future.

[00:13:01] I think there is no no time song I don't know how to say exactly this but it's sorry timeless. I'm less song yeah that can be can help anyone in the past and the present or in the

[00:13:16] future. So just to rephrase what you were saying you had this concept and idea of what ghosting is from all your research but you wanted to put the emotional aspect of it with your experience

[00:13:29] and bring those two concepts together. Yeah yeah exactly but I don't want to make a song just saying hey girls you did it make it right wanted to make you want to convey the emotional impact of it

[00:13:45] that it's a painful experience. Yeah yeah not just something they shouldn't have but that it has a true mental health component to it I think. Yeah I wanted to do I wanted to do a more mature song

[00:14:03] got shows like my process with the therapy and that shows that I survive it. I survive the the ghost. So what is your hope that the message of your song will be for people who hear it

[00:14:21] is it? Do you feel it's for both people who have ghosted and also for people who have been ghosted? Yeah for both exactly I will love that ghost people that people that may ghost or people that

[00:14:33] may ghosting it's that people that may ghosting listen the song because the chorus it like a nightmare for them you know it's repeating all the time talk to me talk to me you need to talk

[00:14:47] someone you actually the chorus is saying you did something wrong you know you you didn't talk to that person but in the births we're more false for survivors because I'm saying I'm the voice

[00:15:06] of the woman who's heart you lost okay but this is a sentence obviously directed to the ghost but also it's a sentence for the survivors because I'm saying that I am the voice that I am

[00:15:23] trying to rise my voice for all the people that like me lift this in silence and I am raising the voice so you can also raise your voice you can say hey I'm here and I am not confused I didn't

[00:15:41] do anything wrong. A lot of people's and I have shame for what happened to them to be able to speak up about it and acknowledge that it is a really hurtful thing to do that

[00:15:53] someone should have done honestly. Yeah yeah exactly. How tell me how did you feel when the song came out? Wow we might even if it took me five years for writing all the verses and finally

[00:16:14] recording everything you can imagine that my feelings it is a really important song from me and well I am a little bit emotional here yeah I was really a really amazing woman I felt but I felt like the whole process is completed you know that finally I

[00:16:46] am able to speak about it even sing about it and that finally the circle the circle is close so it was it was amazing really I felt complete. That's amazing I I'm not

[00:17:05] creative that way at all so I can only imagine like hearing your emotion with what that feeling must be like to be able to create something like that and put it out in the world just you know

[00:17:13] and also the feeling you can have of helping people with hearing your music for better something like this I'm curious when you were doing your research did you come across any other songs that were about

[00:17:26] co-staying or do you think that's not very common? No no no no I didn't listen to another songs about ghosting because and not just because it's ghosting but because my whole process

[00:17:43] where when I am creating music is really important for me when I am creating an is song not to be similar or to anyone not to copy but not copy in the wrong sense but maybe you can be influenced

[00:18:00] you can you can copy without knowing it without realizing you know because you have you have been hearing that song listening that song or listening that amazing sentence that someone wrote no no

[00:18:15] so that's that's the reason why I'm not listening to 20 songs that quote influenced me in that way yeah I don't think there is of course I'm not an expert on all the music out there in the world but

[00:18:30] I don't think this is a topic I hear a lot of music about or even a topic that's spoken about a lot which is why I started this podcast because I couldn't find anything out there where people were

[00:18:41] talking about this happening I'm coping with ghosting is out there which is a great resource but I didn't hear the voices of people being able to share their stories and to talk about it

[00:18:52] and so that was my motivation to start the podcast to share my own experience but then give other people a platform to talk about it so I think it's so important to have different artistic and

[00:19:02] creative ways to have these conversations because that's really how you start changing right by talking about it and sharing our stories yeah actually now I was searching the lyrics to say

[00:19:15] it exactly my words but on my song I said there are many minds singing this song and that's the that's the explanation because I know that there are a lot of people thinking about that a lot

[00:19:29] of minds trying to say talk to me talk to me but it's in silence that the people lives a ghosting and that's I think it's one of the hardest part to to survive this to

[00:19:48] to get better or to yeah to get better and it's hard because you can feel really ashamed when it happens to you and there's a lot of advice out there that you know when you get ghosted just

[00:20:01] you know don't talk about it don't say anything back you know just kind of move on you you know you were lucky that it happened you know the much worse but I just think that in

[00:20:12] ignores the trauma of what ghosting can do to you and it just again it's like the silence around it which just you know it makes it worse in a lot of ways so it's it's a really difficult

[00:20:25] topic I think to really figure out how do we talk about it how do we talk about it appropriately and how do we talk about it to the people who ghost us yeah actually also on my lyrics I am

[00:20:39] talking about this issue because I am saying like I guess I guess you'd say that doing it this way was even the best obviously this is what I receive or what I imagine that the ghost would say to

[00:20:52] me but also the the society my friends they are telling to me that well this behavior is showing you how he's no come on no no stop to say that because that's not of course it's showing to

[00:21:13] me that our relationship is and we are not gonna meet again but also returning to my song there are too many ways to say so long you know and all your friends are telling you that these behavior

[00:21:31] shows how he is and you need to forget him but the ghosting has something that takes you there I don't know exactly how to say it but because when someone just stopped the communication

[00:21:51] stop talking maybe he had an accident he died I mean it couldn't be a lot of things and so you wait for some time that you are thinking okay if he's not answering me today maybe he had

[00:22:11] about day today okay maybe today no and you are waiting to the second day and it's been a week without knowing anything or news from him oh maybe I don't know maybe he lost the phone he lost my number

[00:22:26] whatever and when it's like a month you said okay he's doing a ghosting to me but you know realize about the ghosting the day the first day no you know so it's really hard

[00:22:43] because the survivor starts from another point to be or to get well it starts maybe one month before no after the ghost has been yeah I think I think I've talked about this on my podcast where

[00:23:05] it's almost like a power thing because the person who goes to do they know that they're done but they haven't told you that and so you go on for a while thinking that you're still in

[00:23:15] the on the same page and then when you realize you're not you end up feeling really stupid a lot of time so then it is a breakup you know so and that's the thing too it's not a normal

[00:23:25] breakup though it's a breakup where you never get to change the talk about it have a conversation here each other's point of view and then everyone around you is telling you just get over it

[00:23:35] just you dodge the bullet move on rather than acknowledging that they'll you go through the same pain and sometimes worse than you would in any other kind of breakup. So tell you exactly

[00:23:47] and it's really difficult for the survivor I don't want to be tim because we are not big things Maria this is then such a great conversation I'm so excited you reached out to me

[00:23:58] and I got to purchase paid a little bit in the process by being in the video before we wrap up what else do you want to say to our audience? Now I hope that this song helps a lot of people

[00:24:11] that's all I want to say because it's from my heart, directly to yours and it's all that I can it's my the most important thing that I have that I'm giving to you. Thank you so much

[00:24:29] and listeners I will be posting the full set of lyrics in the show notes and if you listen to the end of this podcast you can also hear the entire song and also for listeners benefit

[00:24:40] where can they find all of your music how can they find you online? Thank you very much to inviting me to the God Ghost podcast. You can find me in Spotify with my name Marie Iprat with WT

[00:24:53] not Brad like Brad Pete no Prat with me and also on Instagram and it is Marie Iprat Music and listeners if you want to find more episodes you can find us on the goespodcast.com

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[00:25:20] wherever you get your podcast so that you can help more people find this podcast as well and as always thank you folks. And I'm the boys all the women who's hard you look. I just said I do it in this way was even the best.

[00:25:50] Let me say it and she's very so much feeling the best on my chest. Yeah, how many minds singing this song? Yeah, I'm anyways the same so long. Well, if we can decide how we just talk I'm listening you're not singing alone.

[00:26:16] No, not to me, talk to me, talk to me, talk to me, talk to me, talk to me, say something, talk to me, talk to me, talk to me, talk to me, talk to me, talk to me, talk to me, talk to me,

[00:26:36] say something somebody's gonna be learning me better. That's true. Because having missing some pain but it's not you. I was repeating your message just all the way we went through and I realized that you've been the messiest man that I knew.

[00:26:59] Yeah, I'm an in mind singing this song. Yeah, I'm anyways the many ways to say so long. If we can decide how we just talk I'm listening you're not singing alone.

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